senate to do something, then maybe do something. >> and to add to what kirsten is saying, chairman nadler and the speaker in most ways are really on the same page. they both have the same goal. they want to hold the administration accountable and achieve legislative victories for the american people. they may have differences in strategy. that's not uncommon. chairman often bring their strategic ideas to the speaker, and she will listen to them and say that's a great idea. let's do it. or she will say i disagree with you. and that's the way the process works. a lot of times you don't see it. this is becoming particularly public. you don't often see the differences that take place between the chairs and the speaker. >> the conventional wisdom is that impeachment by republicans helped bill clinton, and therefore that's led to this conventional wisdom that impeachment by democrats of donald trump may help him in 2020. but i've heard folks make the point, well, after all, republicans won the presidency in 2020. >> but they lost seats. >> a handful, right.