migrants pose no threat or danger to the united states. we know from past history that when we connect them with case managers in a community, they have a 99% chance of meeting their court dates and their appointments with i.c.e., and it costs us a tenth of what we pay to keep them in detention and in custody. >> so in other words, catch and release is something you support? >> no, i wouldn't call it catch and release. identical it helping those who are seeking asylum in this country to follow our laws. >> so, david, do you agree with o'rourke? is that the best option to just basically let these people go as they come in and help them navigate the court process, setting them up with somebody? >> well, what beto o'rourke was saying, ana, and saying correctly, by the way, is that we can use alternative forms of detention. we have used those successfully. folks that are involved in the asylum hearing process, they show up at court in the percentages of about 90%.