wi have to ascertain whether he's telling the truth because he has no reason to lie. that's really going to come down to working with chairman cummings and the rest of the oversight committee to determine how froeapproach the best way t further dig in on this information. >> on the issue of the house launching impeachment proceedings, there will be a big meeting with nancy pelosi, all the democrat will be there. i assume you'll be there. do you think she is shifting her attitude? >> i think she's been very clear all along that if we continue to be stymied in our desire on behalf of the american people to have the subpoenas honored and the information provided then we're getting closer and cloese to have no other choice than to take further action. whether that's first through the court system and drawing a line in the sand as i suggested earlier or going straight to impeachment proceedings, that will be one of the things we want to talk about. >> how much pressure is she getting? >> it's hard to say.