pissed off as well, because they're going to be like, i can't believe people were finding this end run around. there's a lot of wrong here and my biggest fear is we don't know the half. >> yes, and that was my response to just about all the people who texted me today saying, can you believe this? and many more who said, i'm not surprised. isn't this the way it works? it thought it worked this way. maybe not to this level, but that's the way it works. that's why that their -- you know, equity in college admissions, all of these standards and rules that many people don't seem to be abiding by. but for the most part, chris, that's how it happens. that's -- >> i think that it feeds -- >> i think that's the way the world works and especially in this -- >> it feeds the cynicism of that. >> it does feed the cynicism. i'm not saying it's right, but i'm not so naive to think this doesn't happen all the time and that there aren't people out there wondering what they did doesn't cross the line ethically or legally. >> i don't disagree with that. if these people hadn't been