views are such they may live in, say, a massachusetts or rhode island or a connecticut or something like that, whose views are quite liberal, but they think -- if the race were wonly at the national level in their states, their progressive views would dominate and win. the fact is, you still got to bring in the wisconsins and the iowas and the pennsylvanias and the michigans. you quote got to get in the mid. got to win ohio. to do that, the voters there are more conservative, more moderate. when you get price tags on these big programs, people begin to realize how much they're going to cost. you're going to see some real movement away from them, i think, although, you know, the idea, medicare for all, is very, very appealing to the base, a majority of people in the democratic party. the idea of doing something dramatic about climate change is very appealing to a big majority of people on the democratic side. but there is this fear among some progressives and a lot of