but, and you know this because you've covered the white house, if you work in the white house and your father is the president and your husband is running middle east peace. >> can you be in the conversation? can you be in the conversation and can you look at briefing books on an airplane? all sorts of stuff, particularly if you're a married couple and you do presumably talk to each other and her father is the president so the -- the fact that she wanted the clearance makes sense even though her job under normal circumstances would not -- would certainly not require it. >> there is a wall even if it's your spouse, right? >> there should be. >> gloria borger, kim wahle, thank you so much. the battle over border security is heating up as secretary kist jen nielsen defends the president's emergency declaration before congress. i'll be getting reaction from a republican trying to rein in that presidential power, and the