about are the same things that our president has lied about in the past and continues to do so. >> that's your allegation. >> well, i could go -- we could go through -- we could go through three of those six packs with me laying out all the different lies. >> perhaps we will. but we have a right to disagree about this and that's what courts are for. >> 100%. but this isn't a court. this is congress, it's oversight, and it's fine. what i'm saying is, i have never seen outrage about what the president lies about like any of the outrage i saw from the right today about michael cohen. is that hypocrisy? >> well, i think you have to look for belief. and if we believe that michael cohen, in our heart of hearts, was orchestrated into this presentation today, which he was, by lanny davis, and unfortunately, i believe that our chairman, who's a highly esteemed gentlemen i greatly admire, i believe he was pulled into this thing, i think the