york state? none of those are the slam dunks you see in this indictment against stone. but the question i'm asking is could you bring a state charge under new york law for aiding and abetting for a hacking conspiracy or soliciting stolen goods? i think there's a stronger case for those crimes than you would for violations of campaign financial. if you have stone involved with a conspiracy to solicit stolen goods or aid and abet computer hacking, even if trump pardons stone, you could still have a new york state prosecution for stone, which means he needs to cooperate. >> as this was all happening, just for the last couple of days of -- you just answered the question i had. thank you. i appreciate it. because if it does go to you said state charges or if it goes to the southern district of new york, is that what you're saying? >> no, i'm talking this is federal and state. so mueller and fdny are federal, and then the question are
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