about also is the methods. they do not want in any way to disclose the methods by which they are able to monitor some of this activity. look, it's very clear when you talk to the fbi publicly, privately, there's a lot of concern around 2020. and i think what we're seeing in this case is one of it limitations of a case like this with national security is that the fbi and the department of justice are always afraid to reveal too much information. and that is sometimes why we don't see charges brought in these kinds of cases. and simply what they're telling us here is, look, we're telling a judge we have to be careful here. we cannot release a lot of this information because we have active investigations, and if we reveal this information national security is going to be risked here. >> thank you, shimon. i want to bring in now michael isikoff. max boot is here as well. he's the author of "the