reopen again and we are back in the same place in three weeks. so i think that this is -- it's groundhog day and i think it's absolutely ridiculous. this is not how government is supposed to work. i mean this is too much power if c consolidated in the white house. this is why we are talking about government shutdowns every three weeks now. >> and karen, one of the things we did see is polling suggesting that pelosi's negative poll ratings went up since this shutdown. it's not as though only president trump as suffered even though the public overwhelmingly held him and republicans ri responsible for it. of. >> right. remember that we were starting to see and i think this was confirmed over the weekend, gop senators and members of congress really starting to feel the heat and starting to crack. so i don't -- i think pelosi is confident and firm in her position and i think very clear if the president tries to shut