allegiance from maduro. is that significant? >> yes, it's what the gamble of what declaring an interim presidency was hoping to provoke, of course, much more of that. he's doing it from a safe position in washington and we have to wait and see if others follow him. right now, guaido is hoping that others around the world -- other similar attaches will follow suit and some in caracas, but that's still yet to see. >> we know that the opposition led assembly in venezuela has offered amnesty to the military that steps away from maduro. that could be a tipping point. also, you know, word that perhaps maduro and the opposition are talking. would that be a very positive step and do you foresee with what we're looking at now that there could be a political solution to this crisis? >> there has to be a political solution to the crisis. i think some people have an