conspiracy question, they don't have the substantive nugget in there. that is probably why there is no conspiracy charge. they have plenty on stone with his blatant lying and witness tampering. i think that is really important here because so much of the indictments has been about false statements and covering up. obviously, common sense asks why are they so concerned about this? was stone just trying to walk it back or does he have something more substantive that he is trying to cover up here? we see the way that the president and giuliani are trying to witness tamper with michael cohen. the president has been trying to encourage stone to stay strong. this is all part of the same type of behavior and obviously raises the question of what is it that they don't want people to talk about. >> let me just read you from the indictment. this is part of point five. it reads stone was contacted by a senior trump campaign official