i can assure you that the 16 of us are proceeding to negotiate a proposal as well. >> is mcconnell allowed to negotiate or is he still the president's proxy. >> he is clearly negotiating and wants this to end. heine had a good first meeting with chuck schumer. they're finally talking. i wish it happened a month ago. at least it's finally happening. as far as the president's use of emergency power and very dubious from a constitutional perspective. i don't think the president can take money that congress allocated for specific purposes. and then repurpose it to build physical barriers. walls and fences, whatever. >> if you had to take a guess,