lingered since this shutdown started -- >> there's no plan. >> reporter: what is the plan, exactly. what is the plan afterwards? what will the president ultimately sign beyond his demand for $5.7 million for his for his border wall? what would he agree to? that's not been clear to republican senators even and i'm told that these private meeting, there was some frustration about the lack of strategy going forward especially since these votes are going to go down and then what? so that's why it's also prompting these discussions among rank and file republicans and senators to see if there's any middle ground going forward but the president needs to endorse that in order for this to get any momentum and he has not said that yet and that's why some republicans are just not happy at this point. >> that is the last thing all these federal workers who tim was just talking about want to hear, that there doesn't appear to be a plan. manu, thank you so much. special coverage continues as we