here is our plan. if you want to reject it, fine. then you are the ones who have rejected it. that will be the starting position. for democrats, they don't want anything that, you know, supports president trump's pledge of a concrete wall, but certainly they have expressed an openness towards border security and in light of the tragic deaths of these two children whose families were attempting to bring them across the border, there is now a re-examination of the procedures for taking care of, you know, people and children. >> sure. >> in the government's care once they are in u.s. custody. so i think, look, this is going to play out in terms of a normal debate process. but 2020 is a backdrop for everything. trump is negotiating positions on whether he's living up to his wall promise to his base and it is, you know, the backdrop of democratic positions as a