make things work, and that was true not only for the u.s. government, the u.s. side of things but also for our allies and partners around the world. he was extremely influential that way, and as far as whether or not this is a big deal, it's a huge deal because if brett mcgurk goes, and he's probably doing it in solidarity with secretary mattis, when somebody like that goes it's a critical notice to the administration that their policies and way of doing business has really not worked with the folks that are carrying out those policies. >> presumably this is somebody the president should have known as well. >> absolutely. >> general, let me turn to you. one of the question questiokey led to mattis' resignation, is that the kurdish allies in the field are being hung out to dry, and you have heard from people