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corroborating the fact that the president and the campaign knew about this and that it was a real problem. >> okay, rachel. let's talk about russia, though. because there was a phrase in the special counsel office's testimony in cohen's court hearing yesterday that should concern the president. they said cohen has provided their office, the special counsel's office with credible and reliable information about core russia related issues under investigation. that seemed to focus on things other than hush money payments to women. how concerning should that be for the president? >> extremely concerning. i mean, clearly his legal exposure here is growing. it is not shrinking according to what the white house is claiming right now. cohen knew about these talks with russia and him trying to build a moscow trump tower. and that's leading into the presidential campaign. so this is going to be something that hill investigators are going to want to talk to him

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