>> we'll see what happens. sarah westwood, thank you. jane newton small from "time" magazine, good to see you, jay. on that last point sarah made, there still have to be a lot of things that have to be worked out. we're hearing reportedly that the two countries have agreed, but there are a lot of other intricacies that have to be worked out. how do you see this path? >> well, i think certainly it's an interesting move and one that i think donald trump welcomes enormously considering a federal court earlier last week banned their plan or suspended their plan to deny asylum to anybody who's crossed the border ille l illegally, so this is something obviously that has been a priority for donald trump to really grapple with this issue. asylum applications have more than quadrupled since 2014, and so it's been a pretty big issue for them. now, again, this is a very tentative deal. the mexican government has said