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the seafront and thinking, you know, "one of these days," you know? cruise ships. what happens then? >> hugo: well, look -- >> anthony: is this an inevitable march of progress? am i being a snob? >> no, no, you're being very realistic. that's the concern of most cubans. i wouldn't mind seeing one or two starbucks along havana, but i'm hoping we're not going back to 1958, with the majority of cuban companies were owned by american corporations. >> anthony: right. >> hugo: i have got to believe that cuba will want to research some of the value that represents, you know, the hearts and soul of the cuban people. >> anthony: last time i was in havana, a meal at a paladar would have been rice and beans. now, sushi, a certain sign of impending apocalypse. that's good. >> hugo: yeah. ten years ago, this restaurant would have never been allowed. not only because private businesses were not allowed, but