legal fees. >> the past essentially two years of denial from the president. knowledge of paying murn to the women. and the surrogates and sanders. is a lie? >> pretty much. they initially when we reported the mcdougal deal. hope hicks the campaign spokesman went to trump and asked him about it. and she came back after speaking to him based on what she was told and said we have no knowledge of any of this. just in the last couple of months we have the secret tape of cohen talking to president trump about buying the rights to karen mcdougal story in september 2016. like just before we reported that. there's evidence beyond reporting today. which is based on three dozen people. that trump actually knew about it. even though he denied it. >> also, in the tape trump and cohen were talking about buying the file from david pecker about
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