very much early in the investigative stage. but what we saw there is the balance of law enforcement officers have to do. on one hand, the assistant director to the fbi indicated they don't want to disclose information which is true, right? you want to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation, but shows the importance of the media and getting information because but for the coverage, the security officer who worked for mr. de niro, would not have found that device, he saw the picture on tv and said, that's something that looks familiar. it shows that balance of what do you divulge, keep close to the vest. >> they also wouldn't say, you know, there had been some reports that maybe one of the devices originated in florida, they wouldn't confirm any of the above. interesting we were talking before, you were reporting on that at least the device from here time warner center was -- is en route to quantico. it sou it sounds like they detonated one device but the rest in tact on the way to virginia. >> the soros device, they shot that, detonated it. that makes sense.