yes. >> hmm. okay. that doesn't seem so clean. you heard what the president said last night about the congressman who -- about gianforte who pleaded guilty. he was charged for assaulting a reporter back during his special election. especially given the disappearance of "the washington post" columnist, jamal khashoggi, can you make an honest case that what the president was saying last night was just a joke? and no big deal? >> kate, i think that the optics and the timing is obviously unfortunate. i do think that the president's rallies are partly political and partly -- >> just dumb, marc, just dumb. >> partly entertainment, and that's what people come to see. but yes, i can confess to you that the timing is inappropriate. >> you think at this time that it's a good idea to be joking -- >> i just said the timing is bad. >> i hope greg gianforte has more qualities going for him than the fact that he likes to body slam reporters. >> you're right. greg actually is a great guy and a good congressman who confessed