of everything that came before. there was a comfort level there. we knew each other. he knew he could push us. we knew that he would try to push us. >> andrew: people felt like they knew him. they felt like if they met him he would look out for them. that sounds weird, but i think that's how people felt about him. they felt like he was in their corner. they felt like he was force for good. they felt like his heart was in the right place. they felt like he was willing to stick his neck out for people. >> yegi: he was honest about anything he saw. not to censor himself. whether positive or negative. i think that's very important and that's why many people connect, 'cause they see he's talking about like -- even the words that he threw sometimes i'm like, "jason, can he say that on tv?" he was like, "tony can." >> zamir: what is the perception of mr. putin these days? after 14 years, he's in power. >> anthony: my perception? >> zamir: his personal -- >> anthony: do you really want to hear it? >> zamir: i'm not sure, but let's see. >> anthony: a former mid-level