>> because he's that close to him, he had great latitude to handle these matters. michael cohen said from the very beginning that he did this on his own and did not tell the president. the agreement was between ecllc and stormy daniels. >> so, okay, we now know that wasn't true. soon after that, the president was asked about the allegations. # >> mr. president, did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no. no. then why did michael cohen make it if there was no truth to her allegations? >> well, you would have to ask michael cohen. michael's my -- an attorney, and you would have to ask michael cohen. >> do you know where he got the money to make that payment? >> i don't know, no. >> so we now know that's not true, either. that being said, nowhere in today's story is there any suggestion that any laws were broken, but it does paint a picture who is willing to do anything to bury parts of his past and involve his son in this. joining me now is stormy