allegations. i think that this kind of attitude is what makes it really difficult for victims and survivors of these kinds of traumatic events to even come forward. we don't seem to have come very far from the anita hill days. as i said for "the wall street journal" to come out and talk to me about due process or all the women out there that i'm hearing about that never came forward, it is really important, not only for these survivors to be heard, but if their stories are as credible as dr. ford's story is, they need to be believed. >> four people said to be at the party, four described, have denied knowledge of the incident. brett kavanaugh, mark judge, who she said was in the room, pj smith and even ford's long-time friend, leland keyser. there are these statements from the four people she remembers being there, who don't remember the incident or don't even remember being at the party in question, according to her friend, leland keyser, who says