different. the big breakthrough was you couldn't draw penises, you couldn't draw specifically orifices, you couldn't actually show humans penetrating each other. >> toshio: in japan? >> anthony: right. >> toshio: it was a big no-no at the time. so, i invented tentacles -- >> anthony: right. >> toshio: to be evasive about the law. >> anthony: also, demons. >> toshio: demons. >> anthony: that's fantastic. whether you meant to at the time, you absolutely changed the world of manga. you created an entire spectrum of pornography that didn't exist before. if you go -- if you go to youtube now, there is tentacle manga. >> toshio: mm-hmm. >> anthony: there -- and tentacle and demon manga. there is -- >> toshio: and demon. >> anthony: tentacle and demon, uh, anime. >> toshio: mm-hmm. >> anthony: a lot. ah, that looks good. for dinner there's katsuo