are talking about sexual abuse allegations. we're talking about a supreme court nominee who would take if confirmed on the bench, for the rest of his life. could be another 30 years or so. we're talking about a woman who at the time was a 15-year-old girl who alleges to have been traumatized and t taken many decades to come to terms to even share that story. >> well, this is -- i mean, this is going to be a very difficult hearing. for any human being, this will be very difficult. and it is incumbent upon the senators of both parties to handle this with great delicacy both for christine blazey ford and the accused, the judge, judge kavanaugh, is innocent until proven otherwise. it's going to be very tough, and