so, who lives out there? all the people we see fishing on the, uh, riverbanks? are they fishing for dinner? >> peter: most of them are fishing for dinner. call them poor people. but what is poor? they decide by themselves to live here. they could go to asunción and start working on a construction place tomorrow. >> anthony: peter has organized a trip upriver to see new bordeaux, what was hoped would be a new france in the chaco. >> peter: the fish we bought today, fourteen kilo -- >> anthony: right. >> peter: that's half a month's salary. and you get, with a bit of good luck, in one night. >> anthony: right.