summer. of course, now john mccain at the end of this summer. and i do think it's sort of a turning of the page. krautheimer and john mccain both have been, one of them as a statesman, one as an opinion leader, but they were very active in the consecutive movement, in the republican party from the vietnam era, through the reagan era, through 9/11 and onward. and it does seem like their brand of conservatism is out of vogue, at least for now, and this is a turning of the page, and i think it's somewhat symbolic as we head into the cold of winter right now. i think the republican party is no longer springtime: >> do you think this is a moment of reckoning of the party, whether they want to be the party of john mccain or the party of donald trump? >> i think that has been decided for now at least. i think the party clearly decided it is the party of donald trump.