congressional testimony by justice department official bruce ohr. i want to bring in cnn's justice department correspondent evan perez. what more can you tell us about this? >> reporter: well, bruce ohr went in for an interview with the house earlier this week, dana, and in that interview is when he described what happened in this breakfast in july of 2016. obviously this is right at the beginning of when this russia investigation was being -- was started by the fbi. he met in london with christopher steele, according to his testimony to the house members, and he described that christopher steele essentially said that the russians -- he had information that the russians, at least the russian intelligence services, believed they had, quote, donald trump over a barrel. now, we don't know much more about this breakfast, whether christopher steele provided any evidence of this, but we also