concerned. not by what mcbegan kngahn know want to comment on what the president said. they say he followed the book and i think it is the president's book which involves a lot of lyinging. so it is not just mcgahn, but steve cohen -- >> michael cohen. >> yes. and manafort, all of these people. it is all a piece. >> do you think that the president is going to pardon paul manafort, his campaign chairman, who was krikconvicted eight counts? >> i think that the fact that the president continued to say very nice things about manafort, you'd think that he was hopeful