michael cohen has credibility issues. but it is somewhat ironic that the president, who is known to regularly lie about things, has serious credibility issues, and in fact lied about this very thing. first said he had no knowledge of the stormy daniels payments, then had to admit, yes, he did know about the stormy daniels payments is attacking the credibility of michael cohen, i think there are credibility issues on all sides. >> there are questions about what else can be said here. lanny davis said directly this morning michael cohen may have more things he wants to talk to the special counsel about. that does not include cooperation in this plea deal. when you hear those words from lanny davis is it in some ways a public push on his part to come up with a separate deal perhaps with the special counsel? >> that's certainly possible, erica. but it is a strange legal strategy. if he really has good, solid information that the special counsel's going to be interested in, then set up a proffer meeting.