and so on and so forthright in the middle of the hood. so i lived on belmont. aretha lived on boston boulevard, which was one of these streets. we go to the house, and we're in there. it's like a mansion. you know? it's like all this stuff is in there. we growing up did not have privy to seeing because none of us had anything like that, but the reverend franklin was one of the most popular ministers in the country, so that's how they lived, but they didn't act that way. >> right. >> they were just right down front down people. they didn't act like that. we were all really good friends. we go into the house and we're walking around, and i hear a piano being played and somebody singing in a little voice from another room. okay? so i being curious about music always all my life, i go to see what's happening.