mueller probe. one on that list is former director of national intelligence james clapper, our guest tonight. welcome to "prime time." good to have you, sir. >> thanks, chris. >> what do you make of the move? >> well, i think it was, as mike hayden indicated earlier, it was petty and vindictive and it was very personal against john brennan. but you know, this is really not about us individually. and whatever intrinsic contributions we're able to make as formers. this is a long-standing tradition, that former officials, particularly seniors, would be available for rendering advice, counsel, whatever. i have not, nor has john, had any access to classified information since we left the government. so i thought the rationale advanced by the press secretary was completely phony. in fact, in a couple of instances it was factually incorrect.