pennsylvania avenue right in front of the white house. lafayette square is just over here. you get a sense of how close we are getting here. it looks like now -- yeah, they're not going to let people walk into that walking plaza of pennsylvania avenue. so i believe now we're going to have to go up at least a block and then turn left. so again, police cordoning off certain areas here. they're going to restrict the movements of some of these people, keep them some distance apart. as we've been saying, ryan, the actual distance they're going to keep these people apart is going to be crucial in the minutes ahead. >> okay. brian todd, thank you, with the anti-racist protesters there on one side of washington. as we can see, live pictures happening right now. you can see the unite the right protesters making their way into lafayette park. if you can make him out there, their leader jason kessler, he's the one holding the american flag. he's the one who was the principle organizer behind the rallies in charlottesville last