reporter william summer has been reporting on this bizarre movement and joins us now to discuss further. so, william, it's so bizarre and yet it seems to be growing. are qanon followers drawn to trump, or are trump followers, do you think, drawn to qanon? >> you know, it's interesting, i think it's a mix of both. sometimes you see people who are already hard core trump people, and they turn to qanon or believe in it because it portrays this world where, you know, trump is constantly winning and victorious and sort of engaged in this very dramatic battleme battle. at the same time, i think there are people, especially people drawn from the far left, who find it appealing because it portrays this world sort of controlled by evil banks and shadowy forces and they, in a way, sort of meet in the middle with qanon. >> how is this different than pizzagate or birtherism? >> sure, in a way, it's sort of a combination of all of them. it's a megaconspiracy theory that offers this explanation for
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