something similar to them. do some hacking, go on the cyber offensive against putin and his top oligarchs, specifically reveal some of their secret e-mails, expose some of the money laundering going on, and send that direct message to them. maybe that will have an impact. >> that is one aspect. that piece has been talked about for years. do you remember the panama papers and all of those disclosures? that start tord ged to get a li putin's circle, the money they were stealing. but it has to be more than that. it can't be just we're going to embarrass you a little bit. from has to be disruption. so we have the capability, the u.s. government, the national security agency, to disrupt certain cyber activities. it's hard. you have to be accurate. it's not an easy thing to do. but we can do it. remember, that's the part that the president has to sign off on. if you're going to another country to disrupt some activity like that, it's under something called title 50. you need lots of authorizations.