get made all the time, i think are pretty much doing their jobs without regard to what the president may be saying on a day to day basis. >> although coats did say in the past, the director of national intelligence. you of course know that. that he didn't have a big plan ready to go to fight from a cybersecurity perspective because he needed the president to come to him and say, you need to do this. so it's not as simple as just independent authority. >> it's -- it may not be as simple as independent authority, but the fact is there is planning going on inside the department of homeland security, inside the national security agency, inside the fbi, inside all of these agencies. they don't, i think, need necessarily a mother may i from the president. >> that's politics. let's move to law because we know why the president doesn't like talking about russian interference because he hates the probe. he sees the probe as being about him. he believes that it delegitimizes him. he doesn't want anybody to put stock in it, hence all of his invective toward it and those of us who cover it. if you were his attorney, he