faith. there are times when people who have faith speak to leaders who don't subscribe or agree or even align with that. for me it wasn't about being seen. that did nothing for me. >> and let me say this to you. i spoke to someone who i really respect today, and talking about faith. look, i'm a person of faith. he said there is a reason that people would teach you about the bible, would let you congregate on the plantation but would not allow you to read. do you understand the meaning of that? >> absolutely. >> it means they believe that religion keeps people in chains and that fighting back and saying i'm not going to deal with this, turning the other cheek, because they don't want you to leave the plantation.

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