but secondly, and this is on the political side, i think quite frankly the republicans are in trouble. the democrats are clearly favored to take the house right now. history argues that. present polling argues that. one way, though, to crystallize the president's coalition, the deplorables, and get them excited that president trump is back on the ballot is to give the congress an up or down choice. the congress loves to equivocate and bloviate. we need to make it very simple for them. you either fund this wall that the american people voted for or we're going to shut government down. >> ana, what happens if there's a shutdown politically? >> first of all, the republicans take the blame. i mean, i'm almost tempted to say great, go ahead, do a government shutdown because i think it will be so politically costly. it's impossible to think that anybody other than the republicans would take the blame when you have a republican house, a republican senate, and a republican president. look, i remember back when there was -- the entire shutdown debate and shutdown when obama was president. and it was the republicans who