not backing the republican running against heitkamp in that senate race. how significant is that break? based on the fact that republicans have forgotten conservative financial principles. >> this is huge. it shows that the koch brothers are more interested in principled wins than trump tribalism. they will back candidates who are in support of free trade and support of welcoming immigration policy. i think what this really does is this takes the wind out of the sails from a lot of people on the left who want to make the koch brothers the political boogie men. this is more about policy than partisan wins. that is why we see a lot of feathers ruffled on the right with this announcement. >> there are still conservatives concerned about massive deficits. phil, good to see you. thank you.
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