i think that the blowback has been pretty strong, and it is going be very interesting if they can keep it up. but, you know, this guy, this president goes after the press every opportunity he gets. and they support him on it with the base, and they are not paying attention to the constitution, and they don't oppose the first amendment, but that is what this is. >> and there is a new poll that showed that 90-plus percent of the supporters believe him even e over their own family members when it comes to the information sources, and i want to ask you about "the new york times" publisher a.j. salzberger, that they had a meeting that trump put out there, and trump put it out there, and he says that the language not just divisive, but it is increasingly dangerous, and he implored him to reconsider the broad attacks on journalism. is that statement, and that conversation with the publisher of the new york times and the president, does it help or hurt the president and the press? >> well, i don't know anything