very, very positive for both countries. >> we'd have been happy to cover it if we knew what was discussed. we would have been happy to be in the room to watch what was happening. but of course, that didn't happen or even have a read-out or even have a recording or even have other people in the room with credibility who might be able to say what happened. with me now to discuss it is rolf mowatt-larssen, a former cia officer who once served in moscow. he is the director of intelligence and defense project at harvard's bellford center. thank you so much for being with us, rolf. the president obviously wouldn't allow us to cover it. he says that's the most important thing that the internationally broadcast press conference isn't the thing to focus on. put aside for a second what he said at the press conference. how interested or even concerned are you about what happened in that one-on-one meeting, given what we saw publicly happen? >> the problem with the president holding a two-hour one-on-one meeting in which all the substance is discussed and no one is the beneficiary of that discussion sits very difficult for any progress to actually be made in doing what

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