and the media, who had quietly -- i didn't learn this for some 30 years, thought my battle needed to be fought behind the scenes through private channels. that's something lenny davis does. so, that's another parallel here. >> lenny davis is the -- has now been hired by michael cohen as his attorney just recently. but, listen sours tell cnn that cohen has, quote hit the reset button and committed to speaking the real truth. do you think -- are to get on the good side of prosecutors? >> it's certainly sending a signal he's not playing games now. when lawyers do deal with the southern district, or when they deal with mueller that they're going to tell the truth.