food is a very romantic thing. it's usually experienced at best, in an emotional way -- >> nathan: absolutely. >> anthony: -- by explaining it. >> nathan: absolutely, it's emotional. absolutely it can be art, but knowing how to do it right, to me doesn't diminish that. ♪ >> anthony: across the water from my hotel in the puget sound, just outside the city limits, the wilderness opens up and it's beautiful. ♪ ♪ lord of fire in the sky getting level, neon devil ♪ ♪ holy holy in my mind to abide and crucify ♪ ♪ with blue blue sea far away ♪