and the new headline popping up up. i'll put the big question of the moment to you. do you believe that the agency of i.c.e. should be abolished? >> look, i mean, the reality is that we face a lot of problems with what i.c.e. is doing. and there is clearly a leadership and accountability problem here. they're not behaving in a manner that is appropriate for american citizens. at the same time, we recognize that, you know, i.c.e. is the agency that keeps human traffickers in check. i.c.e. does important work for our country. i don't think that just going out and defunding them is necessarily the right approach. but should congress threaten the power of its oversight, the power of the purse? absolutely. it's our job to reform them. and in some ways calling for defunding i.c.e. or eliminating i.c.e. is just giving up our daut as congress to make the organization work. that's our responsibility. if we can't take that responsibility you need to look