i think that you're right, kirsten, to sort of try to take it at face value, and maybe we are overanalyzing it. but with melania trump because she does use her wardrobe so often to send messages, not as blatant as this, that were actually written in paint on the back of a jacket, but things like the pussy bow after the "access hollywood" tape came out or the big white hat or the white outfit around the "me too" movement. she was sending a message. she was wearing it in washington with her back turned towards washington. my sense is that she was trying to send a message to somebody in washington and it backfired. >> grow up. i mean, i'm sorry. how old is she? this is like high school stuff. we're talking about -- we were just listening earlier to children crying and sobbing for their parents. >> you're absolutely right. >> and she's like a teenager. literally. like this is something a teenager would do. although honestly, a teenager that was the child of a president would not do this