was very terse, tense, nasty. he displayed great animosity toward the united states, americans and me. he's in a different capacity now and he looked to me to be a bit overwhelmed by what he was experiencing. i think this is the first time he's ever set foot in the united states. so he has a different role to play, although i was struck by the irony of -- him being appointed as the senior interlochter to make arrangements for the summit. >> you trust him? >> i'm sorry? >> do you trust him? >> well, i think with the north koreans you definitely need to be in the trust but verified mode. >> james clapper, thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. >> thanks, john. >> a lot of news this morning so let's get to it. >> he shouldn't testify. the whole thing should be squashed. >> a newly disclosed memo offering incite into president

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