source. and then rudy giuliani compounds the problem of the appearance by saying until we know what these confidential source is saying, communication or participation in interview is a no-go. so they are really asking, john, as you set it up, they are asking for information from the prosecutor before they can make a decision about whether to go forward. that's not really the way it works in the criminal justice system. tas t as the prospective subject of the investigation, you don't get to know that unless your lawyer tells you in private about that. >> i'm assuming rudy giuliani when he was a prosecutor, pretty good one, he ordered an investigation, km on in, i'll tell you who your secret source is whan they are telling you. you do have the right ones you are charged under the crime under discovery to find out how they got their information. but by rudy giuliani saying publicly the president's team needs to know and right to know,