>> rudy giuliani's saying, we won't talk about obstruction of justice, we won't talk about what's happened since he took office, it's got to be in writing -- it's a negotiating tactic but go ahead. >> that's smart for rudy to do. >> we've got russians who have been indicted, it's not that nothing has come of this investigation. i know we're talking about it later so i'm not going to say much but we have new information about roger stone coordinating, trying to coordinate with wikileaks. so there's a lot more to be known about this. and it's understandable that the president's now -- his strategy is to discredit this, call it spygate, and frankly to lie about what's being done. >> all right, thank you very much. you get the last word as jason had the first. breaking news, for the first time we are seeing what north korea says was the destruction of its main nuclear test site. >> two, one -- >> our will ripley was there. he witnessed it. he is live just as north korea's